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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by kazoolaw View Post
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    Supreme Court lrefuses to block a new Illinois law banning certain caliber weapons and higher capacity magazines that is scheduled to take effect Jan 1, 2024:

    https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...5ea8720cbb6f4d
    Taking no position on the issue while the case proceeds through the lower courts.
    Bruen is strict enough that any federal court applying its standards renders the SC's need to visit another case unnecessary. I can't see an upper appellate court doing anything but following the tenets laid out in the decision. The 9th circuit learned its lesson with 4 cases being remanded or vacated, and has been ruling against California restrictions.

    The 2nd circuit did uphold New York's restrictions on places one can or can't carry, but overturned the rest of the State's laws. New York implemented all sorts of ridiculous things, like carry applicants having to disclose social media accounts, and making it a felony to carry in public access private property (think dept store) without the property owner's approval.

    Some people can't read past the headlines, and limit their media. They then don't understand why they actually know so little, and get upset with others about their own ignorance.

    It's like intentional Dunning-Kruger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    You've gone all in on "TRUMP WILL BE A DICTATOR!!!", but that's not surprising given your limited TDS reinforcing media and echo-chamber.

    He said he'll only be one on the first day.
    Thank you for revealing that you have no problem with an American president being a dictator for one day.
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    Did I say that?

    I'm laughing at you morons for thinking this will be effective. This is all the same shit we heard in 2016.

    How many hoaxes can your media make you fall for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Did I say that?

    I'm laughing at you morons for thinking this will be effective. This is all the same shit we heard in 2016.

    How many hoaxes can your media make you fall for?
    Well, yeah, you said, "He said he'll only be one on the first day". Okay, I am a moron because I take you seriously enough to think you mean what you post.
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    Alternate realities within your echo-chamber, invented by you.
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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    Federal judge blocks California firearms carry law, calling it ‘sweeping, repugnant to the Second Amendment’

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-j...?intcmp=tw_fnc
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    Quote Originally Posted by dneal View Post
    Back on topic:

    WashPost: 18- to 20-year-olds can’t be barred from buying handguns, judge rules

    Most gun laws won’t stand against Thomas’ test in the Bruen decision.
    9th Circuit rules in US v Duarte that non-violent felons may possess firearms.

    From the summary:

    Reversing the district court’s judgment, the panel vacated Steven Duarte’s conviction for violating 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1), which makes it a crime for any person to possess a firearm if he has been convicted of an offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.

    On appeal, Duarte challenged his conviction on Second Amendment grounds, which the panel reviewed de novo rather than for plain error because Duarte had good cause for not raising the claim in the district court when United States v. Vongxay, 594 F.3d 1111 (9th Cir. 2010), foreclosed the argument.

    The panel held that under New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), § 922(g)(1) violates the Second Amendment as applied to Duarte, a non-violent offender who has served his time in prison and reentered society; and that Vongxay, which did not apply the mode of analysis that Bruen later established and now requires courts to perform, is clearly irreconcilable with Bruen. Applying Bruen’s two-step, text-and-history framework, the panel concluded (1) Duarte’s weapon, a handgun, is an “arm” within the meaning of the Second Amendment’s text, that Duarte’s “proposed course of conduct—carrying [a] handgun[] publicly for self-defense”—falls within the Second Amendment’s plain language, and that Duarte is part of “the people” whom the Second Amendment protects because he is an American citizen; and (2) the Government failed to prove that § 922(g)(1)’s categorical prohibition, as applied to Duarte, “is part of the historic tradition that delimits the outer bounds of the” Second Amendment right.
    The opinion is a good read, particularly regarding the history of the 2A.

    LINK to the .pdf decision
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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    I routinely carry a BB gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    I routinely carry a BB gun.
    Thank Scalia and his Heller opinion. Hoo hoo, ha ha...
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    I am not an off duty police officer.

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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    I am not an off duty police officer.
    Everyone can be thankful for that.

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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    I can pretend!

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    Default Re: Gun policy analysis thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Naill View Post
    I can pretend!
    Candy / Chuck-

    Now there's something we can all agree upon.

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    Just get back in town, dneal/Seny?

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